Aesthetics need o be done by the end of the month so decisions need to be made soon.
- Mentioned In
- rTAZQUIVERc25c40154739: add silk screen information to freecad drawings T3078 T1847
T1869: Color Scheme Review
T1871: Quiver Aesthetics - Metal
- Mentioned Here
- T4410: Tool head LulzBot logo plaque
T4308: Release confirmed printed parts for Alpha
M2: Toolhead Selection
T3841: Tool head hot warning plaque
T3204: Drawing Dimensioning Grab Point tool not working
T1869: Color Scheme Review
T1871: Quiver Aesthetics - Metal
Since everyone is on board with the graphics, next step will be to get the art in a format that works for our sheet metal supplier(s). We worked with @samantha on getting the art for TAZ 6 dimensioned properly on actual engineering drawings vs. what we creatives can kludge together in Inkscape with a PDF.
@jessica @tutley At this point we (@mcoronado and I) will assume that you've got it from here unless we hear otherwise, in which case, just let us know what you need and we'll turn things around as quickly as possible.
@mcoronado Weiser is working with their paint shop on satin vs gloss samples. As soon as i see those I will get them over to you!
@kim I let Weiser know they will see an RFQ for FA's today or Monday!
Thanks all for your work to get this done so quickly!
Michael and I had discussed and agreed that the screening isn't really adding anything to the interconnect cover aside from expense and complexity. I think we can add an image to the documentation for the machine that accomplishes the same thing.
Edit: added "to the interconnect cover" for clarity
@west I like the cleaner look of it for sure. We have the LulzBot logo etched on the bed, so both could potentially show up in photos if taken from a downward angle. Are we concerned that close-ups of the tool head could cause confusion regarding whether this is an entirely new brand of 3D printer? Maybe the Cowling could be designed with a spot in mind for "LULZBOT"?
Just so everyone is on the same page. The dual print for the fan shroud hasn't been officially approved. There needs to be some dual printing work/dialing in done before that can happen. The two options for the caution hot would be the dual print in that location (stretch) or a plate mounted in that same location.
@tutley has some prints of the shroud with the caution hot in a dual print. He can post a photo of one.
That's the latest info I have.
- USB port reliability issue should be resolved with latest firmware
- Branding on the front of the shroud is not necessarily a "must have" its more of a desired feature.
- The cap can be redesigned but that will take time. A lot of people have said they like the current cap.
- the grey and green print and back buttons should be fixed with latest firmware
- the threaded holes outside the touchscreen will not be there on new sheet metal
- legacy support for sd cards, recommend using a USB to SD adapter
- fan shroud allowing better visibility of nozzle, this will remove the cooling from the front of the nozzle and thus remove 360 degree cooling
- fan shroud extends to hide cables. this would require large flanges that go up the sides of the toolhead and would make the shroud harder to print or require it to be split into multiple parts. The wires move with the actuated extruder, the fan shroud is fixed.
- usb drive is planned to come with printer
- location of usb port will not be changed
Also, I feel like having legacy support for usb to sd is counter progressive. On quiver we have moved away from legacy toolhead mounting ( cant mount dual v1-3, singlestruder, flexystruder) and the glcd (moved to the clcd) it seems odd to hold onto the legacy sd card when everything else on this machine is moving forward. People are likely to have usb drives over sd cards. The only instances where they might have an sd card is either they have a camera or a reprap printer. Moving away from sd shows the world this is no longer a hobbyist printer, this printer is ready for anything
@west the usb thing is a pretty small ask that gives users an additional tool that could use and let's people know that their experience is important to us. We have users with sd cards dedicated to their print files. We're asking them to transfer their files to usb before they start using their shiny new TAZ 7. It's a negative experience that can be prevented with a fairly low cost gesture. Pending some critical path to viability, let's see if we can make this happen.
@west can the tool head cap be better aligned, simpler and better reflect the angles used in other parts of the printer? Some of the curvilinear features create areas that are difficult to print and introduce aesthetics that aren't seen anywhere else on the printer (z-lowers have a corner radius). I've attached a few photos including a crude GIMP mock-up because it's easier for me to show than describe.
The extruder cap (the part connected to the extruder) cant be separate as it is preventing unwanted tension on the actuator ribbon cable. The cable is not very durable and can break. The left harness is mounted to the same printed part to ensure that E1 and E2 dont accidentally get swapped some how and it is the proper way to remove connectors- removing the connector with the clip instead of the connector with the clip being stationary. The cap cant be any shorter because of how tall the actuators areThe vertical holes that can be seen on the front are how the extruder cap is mounted to the extruder.
@west I guess the idea is too look for opportunities to reduce bulk and dead space. The other thing i noticed while sketching is if the printed parts imply halves that accentuate the extruder movement, the tool looks less like a robot face (forgive me if that's the idea).
Just spit-ballin' ideas :)
Liking these new designs @mcoronado. Especially the 45's which mirror some of the parts on the z-axis assemblies. @tutley I would say the branding on the tool head should be a must. Brand awareness is a huge aspect of our growth plan and to not having branding front and center on our machine is a huge missed opportunity. Just take a look at some of the printers we're up against.
- Are these changes to the tool head worth delaying the time line? Any changes like this take away from functional testing we also have to complete. If there is agreement of delay, that is fine, I just want to establish that we're all on the same page. We can make an estimate of how long the delay will be and update here.
- Is there any reason that this logo or brand mark has to go on the fan duct where we also HAVE to place a hot warning label? Can the brand mark go somewhere else on the tool head? @ebeard all of the examples you've provided, only MB has a mark on the tool head.
- the 3D printed text is cool if we can dial it in a bit more. It would be good to see the etched plate also for comparison. @west what's the status on the plate? If we have an asset tag sourced I can provide artwork if needed.
- I think the z-lowers should be green, the y-axis rod bumpers should be green, and is the slot on the right of the carriage a definite no for a green insert? May be a question for @Steven
@west @tutley Thanks for trying it out. The etched plate and the color will look good. I'll work on vector art for the plate. Do you guys know if we've picked a product/vendor for this yet? If not, I'm happy to get it going. Please let me know what your recommended specs are (not sure how you plan to adhere to the tool head lid).
To be clear, the Caution: Hot asset final art for the fan shroud and the back of the tool head is complete. Please see T3841
The specs I need for the for the laser etched LulzBot plaque that will go on the tool head lid. @west will you please send me the dimensions for the bevel on the lid? @jessica who do you like for a vendor?