The footprint of Quiver will be larger. Packaging and foam will have to be redesigned.
Yes. I wonder if in the mean time we can decide if we want the packaging to stay generally the same with minor tweaks to fit the new machine, or if we want a bigger change. There are many changes that will require a packaging rework including the addition of cable chains, the dimensions and shape of the Y-stage, the tool head (which I assume we'd prefer to ship pre-installed?).
I know when we moved away from the TAZ 4-5 box we heard both good and bad feedback. The TAZ 6 boxes are way less wasteful in terms of the amount of foam used and IMO are much easier to move around, but the older boxes were easier to repack a printer into and arguably protected it better due to the massive amount of foam and the horizontal orientation.
@bowman What about feedback from the line?
I can't say that I have had too much feedback on packaging that would warrant a change more than necessary for the printer updates. Mostly we hear that our packaging is awesome, until we hear from the people whose box arrived looking like it was hit by a freight train.
I'm happy to update the line art to reflect updates to the TAZ. I was also thinking the new mark across two planes would look good. Because the Mini 2 box art was changed to be more consistent with, TAZ should carry over that same look.
I haven't had any customers comment on the packaging. While it's not common, when we get a printer back that has been incorrectly packaged most of the time it's a Taz 6, I don't know if that is because the packaging is hard to package or not.
OK, so to summarize it seems that:
- In general, customers like our packaging
- The TAZ could be easier to repack to avoid damages in return shipping. One thing Michael and I had talked about was if the two bottom foam pieces were pre-spaced by being glued to a piece of cardboard that would sit in the bottom of the box. Then they wouldn't move around and roll out of the way.
- Production would like to keep the tool head on the machine if possible. Marketing would like that too, makes set up for the user much easier, especially with the new mounting system. I'm wondering though for packaging, if the Y-stage would fit in the main printer frame with the tool head attached. @tutley Any idea? Seems like it's a tight fit on TAZ 6 even with the tool head removed.
@mcoronado here are the photos of the printer in a couple different configurations that we are looking at.
The first configuration is tool head all the way left and y-axis bed side forward. This gives more clearance for the y motor, but less clearance for the bed corner near the tool head.
The second configuration is the tool head left and the y-axis bed side backward. This gives more clearance for the tool head but the y motor would sit very close to the extrusion and there is also concern about the rods coming into contact.
The third configuration we discussed is shipping assembled. This would drastically increase the size and cost of shipping, but it can't be ruled out until after we do some drop tests.
@samantha @west @tutley @Steven @jessica I just forwarded an email to this effect, but for the sake of the ticket, our packaging designer is having trouble and I'm not sure we can count on them to design the packaging we need in time. To that end, I think we need to design packaging for the printer (within the existing capability of the manufacturing processes of our current supplier).
Ok I just spoke with the designer he is using alibre design expert (whatever that is) and it was not opening certain parts of the assemblies for some reason. I recommended FreeCAD, which he installed, and is now able to open the .step files using that. I showed him how to measure distances in the part workbench, and walked him though some of the concerning parts. He did point out that the y-cable chain parts were not in the step nor was any of the filament runout sensor. If possible, I would like to send him files with those two added, but I told him he might just have to work from the photos and the physical model at first.
Yeah, he wrote me yesterday,
I can"t locate the "Y chain assembly" that goes on the rear
of the printer...I also cannot get the "dual_aero_assembly_01"
I have everything else. I had to export as .igs , save and re export as .stp to get everything.
Any help would be appreciated.
Also I can't find the filament shut off assembly that mounts on the end.
Just got a message from Tom. The designer was having issues with the software, so they went back to doing it the old fashioned way by hand measuring. They started this yesterday and are still working through. They need a few more days to get this completed, and per Tom will have the printer back to us no later then Friday December 28th.
I created the following part numbers. Let me know if you need anything else!
SH-PA0060: TazPro Top Endcap Foam, 1.7 lb. Density Polyethylene Foam, Black
SH-PA0061: TazPro Bottom Endcap Foam, 1.7# Density Polyethylene Foam, Black
SH-PA0062: TazPro Print Head Stabilizer Foam, 1.7# Density Polyethylene Foam, Black
Updated names and part numbers
SH-PA0060: TazPro, Top Endcap Foam, 1.7 lb. Density Polyethylene Foam, Black
SH-PA0061: TazPro, Bottom Endcap Foam, 1.7# Density Polyethylene Foam, Black
SH-PA0062: TazPro, Print Head Stabilizer Foam, 1.7# Density Polyethylene Foam, Black - Part A
SH-PA0063: TazPro, Corrugated Sleeve
SH-PA0064: TazPro, Print Head Stabilizer Foam, 1.7# Density Polyethylene Foam, Black - Part B