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new schleuniger applicator to make EL-HR0190 syringe pump harness
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For alphas/betas we are using moon's made motor harnesses for the nema 11 motors.
for production i think it will be worth while to get a schleuniger applicator to make the motor harnesses in house
the applicator is for EL-MS0564 Molex, Conn Socket, 24-30AWG Crimp, Tin pins
and these are installed into EL-MS0563 Molex, Connector Receptacle, 6 position

Just wanted to get the conversation started on this

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tutley created this task.Jul 8 2019, 2:24 PM
DaniAO claimed this task.Jul 8 2019, 2:35 PM
DaniAO added subscribers: kim, DaniAO.

@kim as discussed in the meeting, please gather pricing from moons on what these harness will cost, including the tariff

@tutley do you know the cost of the part that is needed if we were to make these in house?

tutley added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:10 AM

@DaniAO based on the last time we bought one, i believe the applicator is somewhere around $1000-$1500. It is possible one of the applicators we already have can handle these crimps, but i think it is unlikely.

bowman added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:21 AM

I will get with Debi at Schleuniger to get a quote and order a new applicator. We will actually have to get 2 (in case one needs to go back to factory for any reason, and depending on demand 2 in use at same time)
The price varies and is determined by each applicators specs but they do range around $1000.00ea.

DaniAO added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:35 AM

@bowman before ordering please just get a quote on the machines. We are trying to see if it would be better to have Moons make them or make them in house. Having the cost will help us narrow this down.


tutley added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:47 AM

@DaniAO keep in mind that these will potentially be used in kpaw 2 as well, with 2x nema 11 motors since it will be dual syringe pump

DaniAO added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:50 AM

@tutley that is good info to have. But don't want to jump the gun placing orders for anything just yet. We would like to get quotes on all things and determine which would be more cost effective going forward.

tutley added a comment.Jul 9 2019, 7:51 AM

@DaniAO absolutely, just wanted to make sure you were aware of that

Request for quote and lead time for 2 applicators to Debi Springer at Schleuniger

Quote for applicators came back from Schleuniger, Each applicator is going to be $2,075.00 for a total of $4150.00

oliver added a subscriber: oliver.Jul 25 2019, 2:51 PM

@DaniAO Are we not looking to outsource all of our harness assemblies to CCX?

@oliver this is a supply chain question

@kim any update on the pricing from moons on them making these?

@oliver @DaniAO Oliver is correct that Kim is working to source all harness assemblies to CCX asap.

To be clear, Kim is working to source all harness assemblies for all machines to CCX asap. Until CCX harnesses can be obtained in production quantities, electro-mechanical continues to manufacture them. I believe Pro cables are all out sourced now.

@cmerot these are for Kangaroo Paw though not Pro. Kim is suppose to see if we can get them from Moons first from what I understand....

kim added a comment.Jul 25 2019, 3:31 PM

Tyler, The Nema stepper Motor EL-MR0063, I show we have purchase 5 pcs of this motor, but don't have a quote from Moons about this Harness. Please forward any information you have on this Harness and I will followup with Moons. This is the first that I have heard I was suppose to source this Harness with Moons.
Thanks, Kim

kim added a comment.Jul 25 2019, 3:33 PM

I just found where we did purchase EL-HR0172 [4634 1402 04190] Harness for NEMA 11 Stepper Motor from Moons. I will request a quote from them.

kim added a comment.Jul 26 2019, 10:09 AM

EL-HR0172 (harness) lead time: 12 weeks
Part number: 4634 1402 04190
1-99 pieces: $3.75 each
100-199 pieces: $2.75 each
200-999 pieces: $1.80 each
1,000-4,999 pieces: 1.15 each

EL-MT0063 lead time: 12 weeks
Part number: MS11HS3P4067
1-49: $34.00 each
50-99: $25.50 each
100-199: $18.70 each
200-999: $12.24 each
1,000-4,999: $7.82 each

@kim Is it possible to get a quote from CCX for EL-HR0172? Why are were we thinking Moon and not CCX? I seem to be unable to find information about this part in the repo for kangaroo paw.

kim added a comment.Aug 7 2019, 10:12 AM

RFQ to CCX, sent the drawing for EL-HR0190 to get First article and production qty pricing of entire harness.

@kim have we heard anything back from CCX on these harnesses yet?

kim added a comment.Aug 23 2019, 10:46 AM

Dani, I just forwarded an email that CCX was needing BoMs. Possibly Adam can followup on this w/CCX.

@tutley from the email Kim sent over, it looks like we will need a drawings for this harness so we can get it quoted by CCX.

Would you be able to do that please?


kim added a comment.Aug 23 2019, 11:35 AM

Hello, CCX is needing a BoM they have the drawing, The drawing only contains internal part numbers, 3 of which I could find from past quotes.

@kim there is a BOM attached to the EL-HR0190 drawing that was pushed to the kangaroopaw repo on aug 7th
shared-j is not syncing properly with kangaroopaw, so if the drawing you have has no bom its an old drawing

Aww yes, this repo isn't syncing to devel for some reason. there is a ticket open for that. I will get you the drawing with the BoM.

cmerot removed a subscriber: cmerot.Aug 23 2019, 2:12 PM

@kim @sherylb @tutley since we are getting these from CCX, we won't need the machine correct? If we don't need it, can we get this ticket closed?


kim closed this task as Resolved.Sep 16 2019, 11:35 AM

Yes, we are getting these Harnesses from CCX, ok to close this ticket.