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Yesterday

tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

@david.hall These changes should have gone through an MCO.
With proper reaming we shouldnt need to broach all the parts. Also i suspect the rise in binding may actually be coming from broaching all of the parts, as it is very easy to make the bore not aligned with the axis of motion when broaching by hand. (hence the issue with the orientation of the parts once installed, both bores are not parallel)

Tue, Apr 23, 12:31 PM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

@oliver have there been any changes to the mfg process?

Tue, Apr 23, 10:35 AM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus

Fri, Apr 19

tutley added a comment to T6701: Check preliminary sheetmetal drawings.

@samantha here are the notes i have:

Fri, Apr 19, 7:59 AM · Brizo
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@oliver we switched to adjusting flow rates for extrusion between various materials like rigid and flexibles so it would not require firmware updates for the different materials, but i think it would be worth while to calibrate the esteps with rigid filaments. Doing a flow rate adjustment for extrusion means every machine has to run specific g code tailored to that extruder. If we calibrate esteps with rigid filament and have the esteps be machine specific, then any gcode ran should perform similarly across various machines. For example if we were to run quivers in the cluster and adjusted extrusion based on flow rate, every machine would need its own gcode.

Fri, Apr 19, 7:06 AM · Quiver

Thu, Apr 18

tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@logan i saw about 3-4mm under extrusion on one of the quivers i was using pretty early on, also the variance is somewhat related to idler tension. especially with the softer filaments. This definitely will play into under sized circles, as well as the issue with the vernier lines. For taz we have always calibrated the extruders at the calibration stage of the production line, and minis we dont even though they are effectively the same tool heads. I think we should consider calibrating the quiver toolheads at calibration like we did for taz6.

Thu, Apr 18, 3:18 PM · Quiver
tutley closed T5666: Retaining ring orientation ohai as Resolved.

@logan thats the way it was intended to be installed. all the retaining ring chamfers face upwards (in the z axis of the part) to match the internal chamfers of the retaining ring slot.

Thu, Apr 18, 7:18 AM · Quiver

Tue, Apr 16

tutley added a comment to T5666: Retaining ring orientation ohai.

i dont understand what you mean? they are all uniformly facing the same direction

Tue, Apr 16, 3:36 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5666: Retaining ring orientation ohai.

hence the chamfer facing up on both the bottom and top retaining rings

Tue, Apr 16, 2:51 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5666: Retaining ring orientation ohai.

the printed part that has the retaining ring slot has a chamfer so it will print the overhang properly. The chamfer of the retaining ring should match the internal chamfer of the printed part that is recieving it

Tue, Apr 16, 2:51 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5073: False positive reading from filament sensor.

sounds good. Is he going to bring it to Aleph Rockies?

Tue, Apr 16, 2:07 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5073: False positive reading from filament sensor.

per T6465 you can try cutting 200mm off your feed tubes, this will reduce the amount of drag on your filament and prevent the PTFE tube from getting caught in the frame.
might help if the filament is slipping on the hobbing

Tue, Apr 16, 1:09 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5073: False positive reading from filament sensor.

im surprised you're not having issues with the top feed reel

Tue, Apr 16, 1:06 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6659: Make drawing for extruder smooth rod.

@Steven Heres a preliminary drawing for this rod

Tue, Apr 16, 10:50 AM · kangaroo-paw
tutley added a comment to T6659: Make drawing for extruder smooth rod.

thank you sir!

Tue, Apr 16, 10:48 AM · kangaroo-paw
tutley added a comment to T6465: Filament Feeder getting caught between toohead mount and top rear cross beam .

agreed

Tue, Apr 16, 10:32 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5073: False positive reading from filament sensor.

@matth can you verify that the encoder wheel spins with the filament sensor wheel when filament is ran through it? if the screw holding the assembly is too loose the filament wheel (with o rings) can spin but the encoder will not.
Also if your idler tension on the tool head is too loose and you're getting partial strip outs or the filament is slipping on the hob this will look like a false positive

Tue, Apr 16, 10:31 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6465: Filament Feeder getting caught between toohead mount and top rear cross beam .

Tue, Apr 16, 10:27 AM · Quiver
tutley updated subscribers of T6659: Make drawing for extruder smooth rod.

@jperry can i get a part number made for: Igus AWM-06 smooth rod, 90mm length

Tue, Apr 16, 10:19 AM · kangaroo-paw
tutley added a comment to T6465: Filament Feeder getting caught between toohead mount and top rear cross beam .

yea i can do that after this print is done

Tue, Apr 16, 9:43 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6465: Filament Feeder getting caught between toohead mount and top rear cross beam .

The pic is slightly out of focus, but this seems to be a good length

Tue, Apr 16, 9:21 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6542: Glass moving on top of heater.

@kent looks good!

Tue, Apr 16, 7:14 AM · Quiver

Mon, Apr 15

tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

i think they should be able to be kept the same with implementation of backlash comp in xy

Mon, Apr 15, 3:24 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@logan please explain the changes that are "necessary" as @anolen and myself dont understand the need.
Also we think you may be having an issue with cura (@anolen and i both had this problem). You can select a profile on extruder 1 and click on the tab for extruder2 but even though the dropdown bar says its the same profile, it is not. if you click the down arrow you will see that they are not the same. I think you may have accidentally been selecting 2 different profiles because of this, but expecting they are on the same one.
maybe you were aware of this weird caveat but i figured it needed mention.

Mon, Apr 15, 3:18 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@logan i dont think all of your changes are necessary.
why are you making 2 different profiles when we are printing with the same material. They should both be the same profile, and should be from @anolen 's standard print profile (what the customers will be using) or very close to it.

Mon, Apr 15, 2:54 PM · Quiver
tutley updated subscribers of T6644: Increase in the number of issues seen on LCD Screens.
Mon, Apr 15, 1:11 PM · Redgum, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley added a comment to T6643: Missing drawings in repo.

the slimline gearbox from Lin Engineering has "this information herein is the property of Lin Engineering. No portion of this data shall be released, disclosed, used, or duplicated for any purpose without the written consent of Lin Engineering."

Mon, Apr 15, 12:02 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6643: Missing drawings in repo.

@kent these are off the shelf parts.
we should not create an AO drawing for them. Only supply the suppliers drawings/spec sheets if they exist.

Mon, Apr 15, 10:38 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6591: USB Drive read intermittent .

@kent you should send the specific USB drives its failing with as well

Mon, Apr 15, 10:26 AM · Quiver
tutley closed T5588: bushings coming out of motor mount as Resolved.

ok im closing as resolved, we can reopen if we see another one!

Mon, Apr 15, 10:25 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5588: bushings coming out of motor mount.

@kent have we seen this on any other machines?

Mon, Apr 15, 8:06 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6591: USB Drive read intermittent .

@robert any updates on this one?

Mon, Apr 15, 8:04 AM · Quiver

Fri, Apr 12

tutley added a comment to T6229: E1 extruder motor harness broke a wire at the crimp..

we may want to add 5mm or so to that side of the harness for some additional slack. In the photo it appears those wires are pulled pretty tight. Also in the photo they are bending around the end of the sleeving, where we can have the motor wires come out of the side of the sleeving to alleviate this hard turn.

Fri, Apr 12, 8:06 AM · Quiver

Thu, Apr 11

tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

we may need to look at the x ends as well

Thu, Apr 11, 3:24 PM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley updated subscribers of T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.
Thu, Apr 11, 2:07 PM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

@oliver it looks as if some of them are getting reamed a little crooked. We may need to make sure the fixture isnt getting worn out.

Thu, Apr 11, 2:07 PM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley committed R231:df91f809a7f3: Updated toohead assem, added cable cover (authored by tutley).
Updated toohead assem, added cable cover
Thu, Apr 11, 1:46 PM
tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

thanks!

Thu, Apr 11, 12:29 PM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley added a comment to T6604: AS-PR0096: Mini 2 X-carriage having too much drag on the x-axis.

i have mentioned this previously when this issue came up before. Often just runnning the reamer through the bore once isnt enough
i found running the reamer through 2x or even 3x gave good results.
@david.hall not sure if the techs are just running through once and calling it good, but figured id bring this up again

Thu, Apr 11, 10:36 AM · Restricted Project, Mini-Hibiscus
tutley committed R231:b81780851567: updated extruder mount and assembly to make room for cable connector (authored by tutley).
updated extruder mount and assembly to make room for cable connector
Thu, Apr 11, 8:29 AM
tutley committed R231:2ef7cb041e11: updated toolhead assembly,added leadscrew drawing (authored by tutley).
updated toolhead assembly,added leadscrew drawing
Thu, Apr 11, 7:30 AM

Wed, Apr 10

tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@logan select polylite on both nozzles. make sure they are the same profile (ie. high detail or whatever), change the settings on one of them. Then when you are done create new profile from changes. Save it.
now you should be able to select your custom profile with all edits on 1 nozzle, and another profile on the other. (i believe you should have the layer height be the same on both profiles or it will average them)

Wed, Apr 10, 2:09 PM · Quiver
tutley updated subscribers of T6591: USB Drive read intermittent .

@mjpelletier any ideas on why this is happening?

Wed, Apr 10, 12:02 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6591: USB Drive read intermittent .

mine is only taking about 4 seconds to recognize

Wed, Apr 10, 11:01 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6591: USB Drive read intermittent .

@robert you should be able to read the usb after powering on the machine with it plugged in, there is a delay for it to recognize the USB however it shouldnt take very long. maybe 10 seconds

Wed, Apr 10, 10:50 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@logan you have to set both extruders to the profile you want to change, then export your profile. then you can select your individual profiles for ea nozzle

Wed, Apr 10, 10:48 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

can you measure the filament diameters and make sure they are close to each other?

Wed, Apr 10, 10:17 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

it looks like the green is under extruding and the black is over extruding

Wed, Apr 10, 10:05 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

@robert are you using the same filament across these machines or is it from different reels?

Wed, Apr 10, 10:04 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6582: Vernier model seems deceiving.

could be a line width/flow issue for one of the toolhead profiles, or under machine settings one of the nozzle diameters might have accidentally been adjusted on the machine this was sliced with.

Wed, Apr 10, 9:48 AM · Quiver

Tue, Apr 9

tutley added a comment to T5668: Bed corners bowing glass.

@logan no prob. sorry if i misinterpreted your comment. I think this amount of gap is acceptable as well

Tue, Apr 9, 11:24 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5668: Bed corners bowing glass.

@logan this is with the latest rev of the corners and the latest center post. There is .5-.75mm gap at the edge. The bed is heated to 100C
This gap is smaller than i had previously seen (using taz6 corners and the original center post) but it is still there.. Dont get me wrong, I think it is probably fine, but you said that there is NO gap, so heres the proof that it is still there.
This is on the quiver at my desk, and is only a sample size of 1.

Tue, Apr 9, 11:12 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5668: Bed corners bowing glass.

@logan while the center post support does reduce the sagging around the edges, there is still some sagging.
the prototype corners possibly sag in the middle a little as only the edges were supported, however there were no heating issues in the center of the bed (likely because the plate bows upwards when heated) and the edges were pushed up flush to the plate. This addressed the number 1 issue we had heard with the modular taz beds, a visibly sagging plate.

Tue, Apr 9, 10:27 AM · Quiver

Mon, Apr 8

tutley added a comment to T6501: Foye_First Article Report: PP-FP0149 Electronics chassis HD touchscreen.

@AOJAS The slightly thicker powder coat on these chassis should be no problem!

Mon, Apr 8, 8:11 AM · Restricted Project

Fri, Apr 5

tutley added a comment to T5891: Dimensional Accuracy - Calibration Print.

@logan yes there should be the M425 S0 in the start gcode, you are correct, Im not seeing it in there either.

Fri, Apr 5, 2:19 PM · Quiver

Wed, Apr 3

tutley added a comment to T5928: Wiping too far to left.

@logan backlash compensation is turned off by default. Hence the M425 S0. This is enabled through Cura settings just like with Mini2.

Wed, Apr 3, 3:10 PM · Cura LulzBot Edition, Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5928: Wiping too far to left.

@logan This is the same start g code as before just with updated wipe locations

Wed, Apr 3, 2:54 PM · Cura LulzBot Edition, Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5928: Wiping too far to left.

@MikeR there is new firmware .104 and later that corrects the probe points as some machines were missing the front right corner. This requires new start gcode, which will correct the wipe. I gave @anolen some start gcode that has the wipe corrected, but she also needed to make some edits,so this is in the works

Wed, Apr 3, 1:38 PM · Cura LulzBot Edition, Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5668: Bed corners bowing glass.

@robert @logan @EricNugent @kent this is why the prototype/alpha corners had the little legs as they help support the plate and prevent it from sagging. With the right infill density they were laying flat and not bowing the beds upwards.
I would recommend we go back to those corners and revisit the slice and or model if need be.

Wed, Apr 3, 7:13 AM · Quiver

Tue, Apr 2

tutley committed R231:588b1e5944d3: Added toolhead assembly (authored by tutley).
Added toolhead assembly
Tue, Apr 2, 2:44 PM
tutley added a member for kangaroo-paw: tutley.
Tue, Apr 2, 2:44 PM

Mon, Apr 1

tutley updated subscribers of T6434: Z scarring/Gaps.

tagging @anolen

Mon, Apr 1, 7:58 AM · Quiver, Cura LulzBot Edition

Fri, Mar 29

tutley added a comment to T6418: AS-CB0095 spec calls for 135mm but they are coming in 120.

Pushed w/ rTAZQUIVER1dc9511b4b78

Fri, Mar 29, 8:37 AM · Quiver
tutley committed rTAZQUIVER1dc9511b4b78: Changed actuator drawing part number from AS-CB0095 to EL-MS0536 (authored by tutley).
Changed actuator drawing part number from AS-CB0095 to EL-MS0536
Fri, Mar 29, 8:36 AM
tutley added a comment to T6418: AS-CB0095 spec calls for 135mm but they are coming in 120.

Do we need a change order for this or can i just change the part number on the drawing?

Fri, Mar 29, 8:21 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6418: AS-CB0095 spec calls for 135mm but they are coming in 120.

@DaniAO you are correct that Actuonix is sending EL-MS0536 already cut to length and terminated with the molex connector

Fri, Mar 29, 8:03 AM · Quiver
tutley closed T6421: filament sensor encoder wheel has slight resistance on some machines as Resolved.

@logan cool I just wanted to verify that gets checked

Fri, Mar 29, 7:20 AM · Quiver

Thu, Mar 28

tutley created T6421: filament sensor encoder wheel has slight resistance on some machines.
Thu, Mar 28, 1:17 PM · Quiver

Tue, Mar 26

tutley committed rBRIZO71ea489d7373: Added path for toolhead prototype (authored by tutley).
Added path for toolhead prototype
Tue, Mar 26, 7:48 AM

Mar 22 2019

tutley added a comment to T3431: Find more reliable and manufacturable thermistor connector solution..

nope

Mar 22 2019, 8:18 AM · Quiver

Mar 15 2019

tutley added a comment to T6231: Printer powers off then back on when homing axis.

also are you plugging directly into the USB port on the CPU or is it into a USB hub?

Mar 15 2019, 8:35 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6069: Y-axis assembly jig not producing aligned assemblies.

@kent i think these values look great!

Mar 15 2019, 7:33 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T2956: Vibrations.

@kent that is on a MINI 1

Mar 15 2019, 7:29 AM · Mini-Hibiscus

Mar 14 2019

tutley committed rANGELFISH617a957439f3: added fcstd file for angelfish assem (authored by tutley).
added fcstd file for angelfish assem
Mar 14 2019, 12:45 PM
tutley committed rANGELFISHaa0eb299454e: Added angelfish assem step file (authored by tutley).
Added angelfish assem step file
Mar 14 2019, 12:30 PM
tutley added a comment to T4495: Add USB static fingers to mitigate ESD to the USB drive socket housing.

looks good to me

Mar 14 2019, 8:52 AM · Quiver

Mar 11 2019

tutley added a comment to T6082: create Part numbers.

Projects/brizo/production_parts/toolhead/hoBB.pdf
Projects/brizo/production_parts/toolhead/leadscrew_drawing.pdf

Mar 11 2019, 8:53 AM · Brizo
tutley committed rBRIZOe19fc2806f6b: Added leadscrew drawing, PDF (authored by tutley).
Added leadscrew drawing, PDF
Mar 11 2019, 8:53 AM

Mar 8 2019

tutley added a comment to T5891: Dimensional Accuracy - Calibration Print.

@Steven and i looked at carriage drag on a few machines, his machine has about 18N drag in the y and ~23N in X,
i also looked at 2 of @anolen's machines. both had about 20N y and 24N in X

Mar 8 2019, 7:43 AM · Quiver

Mar 7 2019

tutley committed rBRIZO018e279a1fbf: Added toolhead CAD (authored by tutley).
Added toolhead CAD
Mar 7 2019, 9:59 AM

Mar 6 2019

tutley added a comment to T5891: Dimensional Accuracy - Calibration Print.

Using 100% correction, 0 smoothing, autocal backlash values, and 100.5 xy steps, I was able to get a print that was in spec.

Mar 6 2019, 10:37 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T6017: Wiper Mount/Pad.

i dont like the idea of wire brushes, as the individual strands can break off and end up shorting a heater

Mar 6 2019, 10:11 AM · Brizo

Mar 5 2019

tutley added a comment to T6006: HD-RD0066: Not with in tolerances.

I think we can loosen the tolerances on the drawing to match those of TAZ6

Mar 5 2019, 12:50 PM · Quiver
tutley created T6007: Lulzbot plaque being bent by tight screws .
Mar 5 2019, 12:49 PM · Quiver
tutley updated subscribers of T5891: Dimensional Accuracy - Calibration Print.

@west tested the calibration print with Redgum which mechanically has the same x/y axes as quiver but uses RAMBO instead of Archim. The print came out sized properly, which points to an issue with the Archim

Mar 5 2019, 12:25 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5986: Check cable drawings.

@west
Here are the issues i found. They are pretty minimal, and some may not actually be a problem, i.e. missing "/" and older template on reused drawings:

Mar 5 2019, 9:34 AM · Redgum

Mar 1 2019

tutley added a comment to T5814: Parts thats we expect to replace on Quiver.

i think @oliver just about covered it. The only things i think should be added to his list are filament sensor boards, and interface boards.

Mar 1 2019, 2:39 PM · Quiver

Feb 26 2019

tutley added a comment to T4725: Test filament runout sensor with 1.75mm filament.

@west completed 3 or 4 of the wireframe skull prints with tons of retractions using 2 different quivers and there were no issues with strip outs or filament sensor problems

Feb 26 2019, 8:54 AM · Quiver

Feb 20 2019

tutley added a comment to T5779: Pre-Print Purge Location.

@karrad yea i agree. i think using the bed to shear the filament off is the best option

Feb 20 2019, 9:27 AM · Cura LulzBot Edition, Quiver

Feb 19 2019

tutley updated subscribers of T5787: Frame Assembly: Trouble attaching the Z-lowers to frame assembly.

@oliver @kent Taz 6 z lowers are also installed in the frame before the z motors. We may need to change the assembly flow for quiver if assemblers are going to be damaging the motors like this

Feb 19 2019, 10:51 AM · Quiver

Feb 13 2019

tutley closed T5700: DC Power harness tie down is hard to get to. as Wontfix.

@kent we have to have the cables where they are to pass conducted emissions. We had them toward the front of the case before and we failed emissions.

Feb 13 2019, 2:43 PM · Quiver

Feb 12 2019

tutley committed rTAZOLIVE6de6a5f8e2b7: Added .5mm hotend assembly single v2 CAD and drawing (authored by tutley).
Added .5mm hotend assembly single v2 CAD and drawing
Feb 12 2019, 10:35 AM

Feb 11 2019

tutley committed rBRIZO2310d996f9cc: corrected bed plate drawing (authored by tutley).
corrected bed plate drawing
Feb 11 2019, 2:37 PM
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

lol yea you are correct, *shorter

Feb 11 2019, 10:06 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

i dont have a measurement, but your machine has a properly seated, and correct length beta xmin bump stop. if yours is wiping 2 or so mm to the left, then the jig should be made an additional 2mm or so longer. (2mm may be too much)

Feb 11 2019, 10:01 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

@logan the only difference between yours and @marcio's machine that i can see now is the xmin bump stop. You have the beta part, and he has the alpha part. We may want to just adjust the beta y spacer jig so that firmware and start gcode wont need adjusted, and that way both alphas and betas will work with the same firmware versions

Feb 11 2019, 9:46 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

@logan i just confirmed that the spacer jig fits both yours and @marcio 's machines

Feb 11 2019, 8:20 AM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5668: Bed corners bowing glass.

@matth see T4874

Feb 11 2019, 8:12 AM · Quiver

Feb 8 2019

tutley updated subscribers of T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

@logan well the alphas all have the older style xmin bump stops that are hard to get fully seated. So @anolen had me look at hers since they were all wiping too far to the right. All the xmin bump stops werent quite seated (about 2-3mm off) and i seated them properly and hers are all wiping correctly now.

Feb 8 2019, 2:56 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

@logan i inspected the x min bump stop and it was printed with a ton of oversquish. it measures about 39.5 off the rod, and was measuring just under 38mm when installed. I replaced the xmin bumpstop with one that measures 40mm. Also i compared the y axis position to @marcio's machine and yours was slightly to the right, so I shifted your y axis 1mm to the left. After these two changes, the machine has no probem wiping or probing. I will bring the machine back to you now.

Feb 8 2019, 2:18 PM · Quiver
tutley added a comment to T5624: SL/Dual E2 Misses wiper pad entirely .

@logan is your x min bump stop fully seated and the correct length? should measure 40mm. mine is measuring about 39.5 when installed

Feb 8 2019, 12:29 PM · Quiver